Was the GT Option

[lethal289]

Was the GT Option ever available on a C (289 2 valve) code from the factory in 1967?

 

[crustycurmudgeon]

Yep. Any V8 in 1967 could have had the GT option.

Frank

 

[B67FSTB]

TO MY KOWLEDGE , YES .

 

[lethal289]

Thanks guys, If it came with a overhead console, would it also have the lower center console? Is it possible to have one without the other?

 

[tarafied1]

I think this link answers your question

Console:
This option put a floor console in your Mustang. You could get it for either automatic or manual transmissions. This option does not designate the overhead console which was available with the Interior Decor Group option or as a stand-alone request.

http://www.scodemustang.com/s_options.php

 

[lethal289]

Thanks craig, thats exactly what i was looking for. :vic

 

[tarafied1]

glad to help, what are you up to?

 

[guruatbol]

I have a friend who is the original owner of a 67 GT. It has only the lower console. The correct console in 67 was the one that goes all the way up to the dash and has a roll type door in front of the stereo. I have had people argue with me, but I have seen many 67s that were owned by the original owner and never had anything done to them and all had the same console.

Due to the strike that year some of the early cars like my 67 has some left over parts from 66. For instance my 67 has the original spindles, steering box and brakes. All identical to the 65 on my lift right nest to it. So, I can only conclude that either my 65 was upgraded, and why the heck anyone would upgrade with those parts, I have no idea, or the parts didn't change. I noticed some other parts that were the same on my 66 that I sold several years ago and my 67, I can't remember though.

I have read in a vintage Mustang rag, it was on vintage Mustangs, but was vintage 80s itself, that due to the strike Ford used almost 1/2 of a years worth of parts left from the 66 production on the new bigger and heavier 67 models.

Mel

 

[caspian65]

Was the GT Option ever available on a C (289 2 valve) code from the factory in 1967?

Your question has been answered, but keep in mind that an A or C code GT in '67 would have had single exhaust from the factory, not duals.

 

[guruatbol]

Your question has been answered, but keep in mind that an A or C code GT in '67 would have had single exhaust from the factory, not duals.

Not! I have seen many C code GTs and A code GTs while still in original paint! Never been repainted condition many years ago and they all had dual with the twin pipes in the rear with the GT valance.

Mel

 

[JeffTepper]

Not! I have seen many C code GTs and A code GTs while still in original paint! Never been repainted condition many years ago and they all had dual with the twin pipes in the rear with the GT valance.

Mel

Mel:

I don't doubt that you have seen C and A code '67s with dual exhausts as have I, but the collective wisdom is that only the K and S codes came from the factory with dual exhausts. Don't forget that fog lights and GT exhaust tips were available as dealer installed accessories and no doubt were installed on quite a few non-GT cars over the years. As a friendly heads up, "caspian65" is Charles Turner, MCA National Head Judge for Gen 1 and 2.

Regards, Jeff

 

[guruatbol]

Mel:

I don't doubt that you have seen C and A code '67s with dual exhausts as have I, but the collective wisdom is that only the K and S codes came from the factory with dual exhausts. Don't forget that fog lights and GT exhaust tips were available as dealer installed accessories and no doubt were installed on quite a few non-GT cars over the years. As a friendly heads up, "caspian65" is Charles Turner, MCA National Head Judge for Gen 1 and 2.

Regards, Jeff

I respect Charles, but when you lived next door on two occasions to the original owners who purchased their 67 GTs one and early production and one a late production and one was a A code and one a C code and know the records at Ford were not all that great, and both cars had dual tips and valance and fog lights and console one with both and both with the door over the radio....

One has to wonder if the conventional wisdom is correct? I know Charles is probably thinking what a dumbass, but I can tell I trust my own two eyes. I only know what I have seen.

Sorry Charles if I have offended you, because I do like you!

Mel

 

[caspian65]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but period documentation and numerous original examples prove otherwise. There are easily identifiable characteristics of the rear uni-body sheet metal that was only present on factory-installed dual exhaust cars. There was even a '67 buck tag code for Metuchen cars "S-K" that was used to identify a uni-body to receive dual exhaust.

It was possible that some dealers may have "corrected" this prior to original owners taking delivery or the original owners requested it changed. Which probably explains your early memories of A or C code GT's having dual exhaust.

Please keep in mind that my reply to this topic is in reference to factory-installed dual exhaust.

 

[guruatbol]

@ Charles, I know what you are saying is correct, but I also know of one car that I can actually go to and touch. I am not sure where the other car is as of present. Anyway the one car is an A code with auto trans GT. It has the console option, was purchased when the current owner was in High School. He was the second owner of a two year old car that had never been painted. Now I was a kid in 69 and have to go by his word.

This car is a dual exhaust car. I have not crawled under it, so I have no way of knowing if it was added by the dealer, but the owner is not necessarily a Mustang nut like we are, he just liked his first car and has kept it under boxes in the garage for the last 20 or so years. Maybe it is a dealer add. Maybe there were a few cars that slipped by in the factory. There was a strike going on and the regular guys were off the job. Just maybe some of the documentation from Ford is incorrect.

It could be any of these, I know what I saw and next time I am in Norwalk, CA I will ask if I can crawl under the car and look for the factory dual exhaust parts. I am very curious now. That would make his car pretty rare wouldn't you agree?

Mel

 

[caspian65]

I think it would be best to look at the car before making any speculations about rarity.

If you need help on what to look for, just let me know. There's one item that can be seen that doesn't even require you to touch the car.

 

[guruatbol]

Charles can you PM me with what you would look for and when I get down there, (It will be a few months so no rush) I will check it out.

Mel

 

[caspian65]

The re-bound plate spot-welded to the rear floor is unique to dual exhaust cars. It has squared off edges on the top side. Single exhaust cars are rounded and the plate is larger.

The reason the plate is there is because the whole area was initially designed for a K code, which had the rubber bumper attached to a plate on the rear carrier.

Here's a pic of one:
http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/vert/12_3_05/12_3_05%20007.jpg

For comparison, here's a single exhaust plate:
http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/mike/red_65_vert/6_26_08/6_26_08%20005.jpg

 

[lethal289]

glad to help, what are you up to?

[member]I recently found another fastback sitting in a yard. I talked to the owner, and its been there since the early 90's. It currently runs and moves under its own power. Owner swears its a factory GT, but he also said it was once a big block car. From what i can see, not originally. The door plate is lost, but the title matches the vin on the apron. 7RO2C car which explains minor rust and solid body panels, Has pony interior, 9 inch rear end, manual trans, and front disc brakes.

The body is solid, front and rear frame rails look decent and are most certainly salvageable. Floor is rusted and needs replaced most likely from a leaking cowl, along with passenger apron, and rad support. Current hood is a repop, and there is no front bumper or grill.

Owner wants to sell, as he has been sitting on it for a very long time. Inspection expired in 91. Short of getting a marti report, how else can you tell if it was a factory gt. It has an overhead console, no center console, no tachometer. brushed aluminum dash and a diamond pattern head liner(could that be a ford item)? The hard part is determining a value, as he insists, that the gas cap says GT, so it has to be one. :sur Its a dual exhaust car, but who knows about the brakets, as there is a huge colony of b's that live next to the fuel tank. :craz

Does the GT option, even bring that much more to the cars value?

He thinks in its current state, it could bring Barrett Jackson money, but I always have hope.

As to the rules, Trying to take a picture on the sly, tends to lead to those candid moments. Keep it clean.

[/member]

 

[guruatbol]

So the rebound plate is the part in the center of the blue car? It seems to be a bit smaller that the red one. That is what you are talking about, right?

On that fastback, ask him his bottom line and if he is reasonable, buy it! The value of a "C" code 67/68 fastback is still going to go up even if you turn it into a tribute car.

Mel

 

[caspian65]

So the rebound plate is the part in the center of the blue car? It seems to be a bit smaller that the red one. That is what you are talking about, right?

Yep!