As some of you know I have been looking for a 69 Mustang since early summer. Well I have had no luck finding what I really want in my area. Yesterday I went to look at a project car. Here is what I found. The seller has a brand new Dynacorn 69 shell. Never been touched. Also has a 69 Mach 1 that is rusted very bad but it is complete minus engine and tranny. The interior is complete but will need to be reuoholstered. From what I see looks like swap parts from one shell to the other plus whatever needs to be replaced. The seller is asking $12,500. What do you think should i go for it?
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Is This A Good Deal
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Thats way cheaper then a dynacorn by itself. Sounds like a great deal, but im sure there will be a debate on ethics if you plan to just switch the vin... You may have some issues trying to register the shell in your area. What would you plan to do? Ohh, and how about some pics?
joesgt281
Member
that's a good deal.
go for it.
go for it.
Sluggo
Active Member
Good deal. Check to see what you have to do to register it before you get too happy.
RyanG85
Well-Known Member
Sounds like a deal. I dont know what you were looking for or what your resto abilities are but plan on alot of time and money just to get this car to be able to be driven. You can find a complete 69 fastback in driver condition for that price or not much more.
I will be checking into how I go about getting a title for this car. My guess is it will be a state VIN number. Would really be nice if I could use the parts cars but that title is lost and I don't think the state would go for it anyway. Reason I say that is I forgot to say the parts car is a S code. Making it a 390 from what seller told me.
Fast68back
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I think the vin would be the determining factor in a deal like this. Figure they Dynacorn shell is like $15k for starters, then say 2 or 3k for a decent parts car. Does they dynacorn shell come with doors, hood and trunk?
daveSanborn
Active Member
Which parts would you swap over? It's likely that 90% of the parts on the donor car are not worth swapping over, but since the price of the combo deal is cheaper than the price of a new Dynacorn shell by itself, I'd take both cars, harvest the hard to find items worth saving, transfer the S code VIN onto the new shell and call it a day.
I don't think it is a good deal. I think the dynacorn bodies are overpriced. You could find an original Mach from that year needing work for a lot less money and come out ahead. You still need an engine and transmission, and finding one already in a used Mach I is a plus.
"Midlife" said:
Yeah, I might agree... IF you can really find a car that has very little rust or crap body work under old paint for cheap, AND you are not planning to upgrade the drivetrain with new engine, trans, etc. I suppose it all comes down to what your build goals are for the car.
I did some checking today but could not get hold of the guy I need to talk to from the DOT. As far as the donor car I would be using the big bolt on items. You know like complete front and rear suspension, the interior and all the wiring. Everything still is in tact under the hood so that stuff would be swapped over as well as the shaker hood. I did some checking and a friend of mine knows where there is a big block for sale. Said he is not sure what size it is but it came from a late 60s car so I am hoping a 390 or maybe even a 428.
daveSanborn
Active Member
I've got more than a handful of Mustang projects under my belt and my experience tells me that very few items are truly worth "swapping over".
From the entire front suspension/steering system, you'll be lucky to find only the steering centerlink and the spindles are worth saving. Everythign else is likely 40+ years old and rusted/worn beyond re-use. The rear suspension will likely fair a little better as you'll usually be able to retain the rearend, the shock mount plates and possibly the shackles (sans bushings).
The '69 door glass glues into the mounting track and is problematic. Most '69 owners opt to swap it out for the more desireable '70 bolt-in glass, but you may be able to live with it. The door latches should be able to re-use, but the hinges will likely need to be re-pinned. Everything else on the doors is probably one step away from the junk pile. If the upholstery on the seats is shot, I assume that the front seats will also need new foam. The seat frames and tracks are likely okay for re-use. The condition of the carpet and underlayment isn't worth the effort to swap over, neither is the headliner, although the headliner bows should be fine. The seatbelts will likely need to be refurbished. The steering wheel is likely cracked, but the column and internals should be salvageable. Is the dashpad cracked? They usually are.... Little things on and around the dash area could be re-used, but all electrical components really should be replaced/refurbished. The ash tray should be okay. The windshield wiper motor/mechanism/linkage arms should be okay. The E-brake mechanism, pedals and pedal support should be okay for re-use. Some of the HVAC components may be salvageable. Pretty much everything else usually isn't worth saving.
The rear seat and the surrounding area FG trim pieces should all be salvageable, unless a PO has cut speaker holes into the rear or side panels. The windshield is likely not worth swapping over, but the backlight should be okay.
I'm unsure what, if anything, could re-used from under the hood except for maybe the shock tower caps and the front grille.
When you say "shaker hood" and and then say the car is missing the engine.... where is the shaker assembly? Do you mean the hood with just the shaker opening in it? The shaker assembly mounts to the top of the engine. Does the car still have the entire shaker assembly intact? This could be a major bonus for purchase consideration as original shaker pieces are worth top dollar.
The deck lid hinges/torsion rods can be re-used. The deck lid latch mechanism should clean up okay.
I guess what I'm getting at is.... for $12k you'll end up with a new Dynacorn body, some worthwhile parts from the donor car, but will still need an additional $5-10k to complete the car.... add in a decent paint job and you'll likely be up around the $30k area.
It might not be such a great deal afterall.....