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Is the '65 Mustang fb a copy of this 50s Ferrari"

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I have never seen this written, but there sure is a resemblance between the Ferrari 250 Tour de France of the 50s and the '65 Mustang fastback. I know many Detroit guys had Ferraris in those days, so the guys who styled the Mustang must have known of the TdF. But has anyone in the Mustang design team ever admitted to a connection?

Here are pictures of a '58 "single louver," and a similar profile of my own '65 fb:

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By the way, you can own the '58 for a mere $8,750,000, now available at Fantasy Junction in Emeryville CA. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/153 ... 2-Cylinder
 
Here are some photos of an earlier "three-louver" TdF, showing a design feature that's familiar to Mustangers as well:

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"180 Out" said:
I know many Detroit guys had Ferraris in those days, so the guys who styled the Mustang must have known of the TdF.

Really ??

what do you mean with detroit guys ?

In those days Ferrari's did cost alot , so the happy few could afford one.

IMHO.

BTW there will always be a resemblens with other cars

Take a 1976/77 toyota celica . its a copy of a mustang fastback.Even the rear lights and louvers were taken.
 
Some photos of gatherings of Detroit big wheels and their Ferraris, in the day:

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Notice how the vintage models appear to have been waterproof. Modern Ferraris dissolve if driven in the rain.
 
If it was the inspiration this is one instance where the imitator out did the original.
 
Another Detroit get-together, early '80s.

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Clockwise from top: unknown, white 512BB, silver 365 GTB Daytona, 308 GTB, red 512BB, 250 LM, 512M (street driven!), 250 GT SWB, and behind the tree branch 250 GTO, 265 Dino, and 275 GTB.

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"This is the late Hank Haga's house on Grindley Court in Bloomfield Hills. The 250LM and red Boxer belonged to Hank. The 250 SWB berlinetta belonged to Roger Meiners, the silver Daytona to Dave Cummins, the silver Boxer to GM designer Chuck Jordan, the GTO to retired Ford engineer Fred Leydorf, the red 308 was probably the fiberglass early car belonging to GM Design (not positive), the red Dino to Kip Wasenko, and I don't know who owned the red 275 GTB ... I seem to recall it was a man visiting from Switzerland who bought it in Michigan to ship home. These were just SOME of the cars in the Detroit area in the seventies/eighties. A hotbed of Ferrari enthusiasts, most of whom were designers/engineers for GM, Ford and Chrysler.

"Not pictured, Bart McMullen owned the 500 SF (one of his many Ferraris). The SEFAC Boxer was originally Chuck Jordan's and was purchased by Dave Cummins who put the SEFAC plate on it."
 
"Horseplay" said:
If it was the inspiration this is one instance where the imitator out did the original.

+1

Although the Daytona Coupe was copied by Peter Brock (IMHO) and even though it was awesome, nothing IMO is better looking in so many ways than the original!
 

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If you want one of those 250 GTOs, and you're willing to cash in your 401K and those of about 600 to 700 close friends and relatives, you're in luck. Provided the average value of these 600 to 700 401Ks is $100,000. Bonham's auction house is offering a '62 in a no-reserve auction during Monterey Historics Week, on August 14. http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/16940/ This will be the first no-reserve auction of a 250 GTO since December 2000.

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Personally I don't think I'd bid on it unless they fix that windshield wiper.
 
"180 Out" said:
I have never seen this written, but there sure is a resemblance between the Ferrari 250 Tour de France of the 50s and the '......."

Yes they both have an abbreviated fastback, but I think the similarities end there. ... And to answer your question, hell will freeze over before any Ford stylist or engineer would admit to have been influenced by the eye-tal-yun devil, Enzo F.


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Hi Jeff. My Ferrari and I have parted company. Believe it or not after 2 years I actually came out ahead by a few dollars, over and above my purchase, resto and repair costs. Might have made $10 per hour!
 
"180 Out" said:
Hi Jeff. My Ferrari and I have parted company. Believe it or not after 2 years I actually came out ahead by a few dollars, over and above my purchase, resto and repair costs. Might have made $10 per hour!

then you are a lucky boy IMO.
 
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