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Sean Payton suspened for the year

I'm sure that this has been going on for years with many teams, it just so happens that someone opened their big yapper and this made headlines. If you play inside the rules of the game I don't see what the big deal is. Were these illegal hits? Were they penalized for these hits? I'm sorry but the fact of life is that on the defensive side of the ball you try to hit the guy across from you as hard as you can, every time. If you knock him out of the game legally, so be it. I don't see a big motivation monitarily for these guys when you get $1000 for putting a guy on a stretcher and $1500 for a knock out when the fines for an illegal or helmet to helmet hit can be 100 times that amount. This is just Goodell measuring ding dongs again and trying to be the biggest bully on the block. :soapboxrant
 
"6t9mach1" said:
I'm sure that this has been going on for years with many teams, it just so happens that someone opened their big yapper and this made headlines. If you play inside the rules of the game I don't see what the big deal is. Were these illegal hits? Were they penalized for these hits? I'm sorry but the fact of life is that on the defensive side of the ball you try to hit the guy across from you as hard as you can, every time. If you knock him out of the game legally, so be it. I don't see a big motivation monitarily for these guys when you get $1000 for putting a guy on a stretcher and $1500 for a knock out when the fines for an illegal or helmet to helmet hit can be 100 times that amount. This is just Goodell measuring ding dongs again and trying to be the biggest bully on the block. :soapboxrant
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Gotta say I believe you are wrong here. Does this happen on other teams? I'm sure to one degree or another, yes. Should the league do everything they can to stop it? Hell yes.
You don't knock a guy out of a game by simply tackling him. You aim to take out a knee or an ankle, etc. Maybe you give him a shot to the head to "ring his bell". You're right, it's not about the bounty money. It's the bragging rights in the clubhouse these guys were gunning for. Aiming to harm another player instills a very bad mentality in a player/team. Period. You can play hard without trying to harm the other guy. Hundreds of guys do it every week in the NFL.
The suspensions and ban of the coaches and management was the right call. So will be any player penalties that come down.
 
You don't knock a guy out of a game by simply tackling him.
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I beg to differ. There are plenty of guys hurt every year, at all different levels of the sport, that get hurt and knocked out of a game by legal, textbook tackles. Whenever you have a full contact sport like football where you are crashing into each other at full speed, things are going to happen.

I totally agree that there is no place for a "bounty" system in the NFL or at any other level, but its naive to think that a defensive player isn't trying to hit the player on the opposing side of the ball as hard as they can to make them think twice about what they are doing, and when you hit as hard as these guys do stuff happens. If these were vicious, illegal hits being done by the Saints players then they should have been being flagged, ejected and fined and this didn't happen because I have yet to see any evidence of intentional, illegal hits being made by the Saints players anywhere. ESPN can come up with some pretty random crap and I have yet to see anything from them showing these illegal hits. Just say'n.
 
"6t9mach1" said:
I beg to differ. There are plenty of guys hurt every year, at all different levels of the sport, that get hurt and knocked out of a game by legal, textbook tackles. Whenever you have a full contact sport like football where you are crashing into each other at full speed, things are going to happen.

I totally agree that there is no place for a "bounty" system in the NFL or at any other level, but its naive to think that a defensive player isn't trying to hit the player on the opposing side of the ball as hard as they can to make them think twice about what they are doing, and when you hit as hard as these guys do stuff happens. If these were vicious, illegal hits being done by the Saints players then they should have been being flagged, ejected and fined and this didn't happen because I have yet to see any evidence of intentional, illegal hits being made by the Saints players anywhere. ESPN can come up with some pretty random crap and I have yet to see anything from them showing these illegal hits. Just say'n.
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Big guys running into each other at full speed will cause some injuries. No doubt. When you make it a competition not to win but rather to hurt the other player is where the issue lies. If 10 of those defensive players all hit as hard as they can but within the rule book it is all meaningless if that 11th guy takes a cheap shot in an illegal play trying to win that bounty and the "glory" that comes with it. There is that 11th guy (and probably a few more) on every team who either doesn't care about abiding by the rules or in the heat of the moment oversteps the boundaries attempting to "win", spurned on by the team bounty program.
Whether any Saints players got flagged or even made a single illegal hit is irrelevant. The team staff had in place an program of reward that was prohibited by the league. Rightfully so.
 
"bigb427" said:
Its all just one more reason to hate the NFL!
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