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Ideas how to light my Budweiser sign

Jonk67

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I traded for this with my local picker ~1yr. ago and finally got around to mounting it to a board so I could hang it up where it's less likely to get broken than leaning on the wall behind my '67. It's a hard plastic (polyprophylene?) outdoor 4'x4' Bud sign manufactured in '68 according to the markings, one of those double sided ones that would be on a pole outside a watering hole or gas station, but just one side.

I made a frame from 1"x4" wood and added the framing to hold it on. The backing is white pressboard to reflect the light. The light I tried is a ~2' double bulb flourescent fixture.
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As you can see the 2' bulb (22" 3500K 14W each) isn't long enough to light up the entire width and has endcaps that block the light from spreading at all but it would still be darker at the edges without the ends just because the bulbs stop over a foot short. The raised portion is 44" at the top across and 46" at the bottom of the sloping part so I can't fit 48" flourescent bulbs under there. I even tried LED rope lights as suggested by a neighbor but they were worse as you could see each bulb as a dot.

Camera phone pic with the garage lights on:
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Camera phone with lights off, you can read the words as above, the phone can't tone down the light intensity:
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I guess obviously I need longer bulbs but do I need a diffuser cover as the one above so that if I have 2 flourescent lights you won't see the darker space between them or that it is 2 bulbs? I'd like it to light evenly but if the center 'BUDWEISER' area is brighter than the rest that's ok, kind of brings the focus on the name. I only see 2' and 4' bulbs available, do I need to build a 'box' behind the sign to fit the full 4' bulbs that would have been in the pole frame like original? How many bulbs if so and with diffuser or unshrouded?

My Uncle worked for AB in St. Louis his entire career and retired from there so the sign is a special addition to my garage.
 
Terry is on the right track. I was going to suggest that you use 4 fluorescents around the perimeter.

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Thanks Terry I'll have to find out where I can get that and do I need those layers (LGP) to carry the light evenly across?
The sign is acrylic.
I'll have to make the mount deeper if I were to use 4 ft perimeter fluorescents as mentioned since the raised portion is only 44".
I'll research the super bright LEDs but all ideas still welcomed. Thanks, Jon
 
If you used a piece of acrylic with a sanded surface behind the sign and mounted LEDs to shine against the edge of the acrylic it should work. The LED light would diffuse across the full surface of the acrylic sheet. Do a search about LED edge lighting to see a whole lot of cool stuff.
 
Ok, I'll need close to a 4'x4' sheet of acrylic, looks like theres a place that sells sheets not too far away, unfortunalely it looks like Lowes/HD only keep up to 30" wide pieces but I'll check with them. The LED stores on the net look expensive but I can get a 16' rope of white LED's for ~$15 at Wally World so if I can string them around the parimeter of the acrylic and fasten them that may work. I'll have to fashion a new frame but wood is cheap enough. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I think this will still be cheaper than four 4' fluorescent lights if it works as planned.
 
Wally World lights won't do it. You need to buy real super bright LEDs, There are dozens and dozens of places on the WEB that sell them in a variety of configurations. It is not a cheap endeavor. One method is to lay out a grid of LEDs across the full back of the sign box. They actually sell expandable/foldable assemblies of lights pre-made for this purpose. Another (and the way I would try to do it) is to side light acrylic with LEDs and have the light diffuse across the full face of the panel. They also sell these panels that are again kind of a grid in that they machine a grid into the panel that the light follows. Bust out a router and spend a day with a "v" bit and you could do it at home. Gonna be really dirty!
I would pick up a small sheet of acrylic and a cheap strip of lights (hardware stores have them) and do some testing. Try and find the simplest way to modify the acrylic so the lights travels across its full face when edge lit by the LEDS.

This place sells 16' of LED strip lights in a single color for about $120. www.Flexfireled.com
 
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