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Offline AzPete

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@!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« on: September, 28, 2010, 02:18:01 PM »
Out for a nice late lunch and a cruise around the beach..... On the way home I noticed the volt meter down with no change when reved...then the temp started climbing.....then I parked. Got out and both belts were off. Grabbed the tools to fix and then noticed the pulley.

Called a tow truck. Then called Classic Air.

Pulley came from Classic Air when I installed the A/C. Been on about 1000 miles. There was no question concerning replacement. Checked my files and said they would 2nd day it to me...no charge and I return the broken one so they can get refunded. Sounds like a typical problem.

I will install the new one but need to find a better quality unit.


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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #1 on: September, 28, 2010, 02:56:57 PM »
Don't know what is harder to keep on the road, these old cars, or these old bodies. Good to know classic air is making the problem right.
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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #2 on: September, 28, 2010, 03:18:08 PM »
I bought the billet aluminum pulley for my 66. I haven't put any miles on it yet but the thing looks solid. Got it from NPD for around 80 bucks.


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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #3 on: September, 28, 2010, 03:23:59 PM »
I bought the billet aluminum pulley for my 66. I haven't put any miles on it yet but the thing looks solid. Got it from NPD for around 80 bucks.



Is that a stock size and dual belts?

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #4 on: September, 28, 2010, 03:32:21 PM »
Yes to both. I will go take a quick pic

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #5 on: September, 28, 2010, 03:37:50 PM »
Here is a pic. I got the crank pulley to match.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #6 on: September, 28, 2010, 03:38:43 PM »
No problem....just got off the phone with NPD....ordered their steel one. It comes with an extra cap over the bolt area. I will stash the Classic Air replacement as a spare or maybe call them when I get it ans see about a refund altogether......... Both will be in on Thursday.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #7 on: September, 28, 2010, 04:24:33 PM »
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


Karma's a biotch, ain't it



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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #8 on: September, 28, 2010, 04:27:34 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


Karma's a biotch, ain't it



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$45 tow, $60 part in 2 days (the part is really free if I use the china replacement), 30 mins time.....I am back on the road.  :coo It is cheap china crap....not Karma.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #9 on: September, 28, 2010, 04:44:06 PM »
Cheap crap, karma......invoking a PT curse too often will come back to haunt you. Listen up dorks!






Seriously, you're lucky it didn't fubar stuff under the hood.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #10 on: September, 28, 2010, 04:53:41 PM »
Yep. real lucky it didn't start flying around under there. It didn't even damage a belt. I got it home and removed the elec. fan and with just one little tug, the outer pulley was free from the center. Thinking about things, I figured about when it started acting up because the A/C comp. would kick on and off. Just thought that was based on the setting. We must have driven it at least 50 miles and 6 start ups of the engine. And it was a silent break....

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #11 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:23:50 PM »
Sounds to me like if you didn't run AC, you wouldn't have such a problem?

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #12 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:30:09 PM »
That looks exactly like what happened to SacBill last year coming back from Knott's.  I believe he had the Classic Air pulley as well.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #13 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:31:58 PM »
It's probably me, but I can't make out the damage in the two pics (I need to find my teeth, which are sitting in some glass somewhere...they help me to see better).  Anyway, when you get the replacement, take a pic of them side by side.
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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #14 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:34:41 PM »
I had the same thing happen to me just as I was slowing down to make a turn. The cheap china brands are not reinforced like the FORD ones. Rich.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #15 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:37:06 PM »
wow thats crazy looking.. good thing you were paying attention to the gauges lol  :craz
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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #16 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:46:36 PM »
It's probably me, but I can't make out the damage in the two pics (I need to find my teeth, which are sitting in some glass somewhere...they help me to see better).  Anyway, when you get the replacement, take a pic of them side by side.

It is hard to see but in the first pic, you can see the pulley sits crooked compared to the water pump and you see very little of the mount bolts or the shaft.

The second one, look at the sharp edges around the mounting bolts plus the w/p shaft is not in the center.

Here is the removed item. Notice the piece on the side.......it should be in the big hole of the pulley. There is even a section totally missing.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #17 on: September, 28, 2010, 05:48:37 PM »
Sounds to me like if you didn't run AC, you wouldn't have such a problem?

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Yea.....but then the wife.......

We didn't have the air on but for about 15 miles of the drive and it was off when things really went south.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #18 on: September, 28, 2010, 06:27:41 PM »
OMG Pete! just caught on to this thread! I was/am worried about this before you had this happen! It looks like the pulley needs a washer ring to strengthen the pulley! NPD, a steel one, guess I'd better order one also! Sorry this had to happen!
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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #19 on: September, 28, 2010, 06:34:44 PM »
Yep....the one for my '66 from NPD has a cap over the end, doubling the thickness around the holes and over the edge. I had the rep pull one and double check the piece.

I should have both the one from Classic and NPD on Thus. Will take pictures then. I will never run a thin one again.....

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #20 on: September, 28, 2010, 06:43:25 PM »
This is the pully that's on my motor now. How do I tell if it will DEFECT? Is there a difference in the strength of aluminum vs. the steel pully?

« Last Edit: September, 28, 2010, 06:45:15 PM by Dne' »

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #21 on: September, 28, 2010, 06:52:30 PM »
The way I see it, if you drive it, it will not hold up. Mine went between 1000 and 1200 miles. I would bet that a person could get it to flex without much leverage while installed on an engine out of the car. Once it cracks, it will go fast. You will never see the crack unless you just happen to notice the pulley wobbling while the engine is idling in the garage.

If I had a normal fan, I think I would have had more damage. The belts just laid there once they came loose. They would have been in the fan. Also, with just a bit more running, the pulley would have been off. Again, with the stock fan, it may have gotten mixed up there and possible radiator damage.

The aluminum one would be thicker and most likely hold up just fine. I don't need the bling....just function.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #22 on: September, 28, 2010, 07:02:04 PM »
ok, that aluminum pulley would look very nice, but I actuallly have very little aluminum, so I guess the steel should be ok with the washer cap.  Pete, You wouldn't happen to have a part numbers handy? If not, surely they can help me over the phone.
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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #23 on: September, 28, 2010, 07:06:45 PM »
8509-2.....be sure it fits your year as it only lists the 65 but the rep said it fits numerous years.

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Re: @!#$^ pulley (*&^%$^ broken
« Reply #24 on: September, 28, 2010, 07:12:03 PM »
Done deal! NPD tomorrow whether gary likes it or not! lol  my lunesta is kicking myh ass, time for bed! see u tojorrow!
Love this site!such nice folks!
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