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J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« on: February, 12, 2010, 02:30:35 PM »
a little, not ready to chop any tops but...
I was thinking (uh oh), I have several stock steel hoods. two with the turn signal vents and one with a Boss9 scoop. What if I make a steel hood to fit my Ecar nose?
I could use the best hood, cut the front off. Then cut the front off a doner, longer by the length of the Shelby Ecar nose. Roughly an inch or so. Of course the hood gets narrower toward the front so I would have to narrow the longer front section before attatching it. Since the "bead" or whatever you would call it runs down the center, I would keep that one peice and section some metal out of either side to narrow it.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #1 on: February, 12, 2010, 02:44:03 PM »
Cool, where did the FB come from?
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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #2 on: February, 12, 2010, 02:44:32 PM »
Cricky Craig, if J can do it.....a caveman could do it  :vic
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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #3 on: February, 12, 2010, 02:46:48 PM »
I say go for it. Remember, the lines running front to back on the hood will possibly have to be slightly adjusted all the way.... I am not familiar how narrow the nose of the shelby hood is compared to a normal hood.
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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #4 on: February, 12, 2010, 02:48:44 PM »
Cricky Craig, if J can do.....a caveman do it  :vic

Don't forget, Jake did it too...

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #5 on: February, 12, 2010, 04:07:37 PM »
Cool, where did the FB come from?
I bought it on ebay and because I was low on funds when doing the coupe, I sold it.  :cry
and another FB I sadly had to sell because I needed money... It was a 302 4 speed with factory AC. I paid $500 in 2001 for it. When I moved to KY I had to sell a 53 F100, this 68 FB and tons of parts because I couldn't move it all :cry :cry :cry

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #6 on: February, 12, 2010, 04:15:35 PM »
Don't forget, Jake did it too...
that too has motivated me

I say go for it. Remember, the lines running front to back on the hood will possibly have to be slightly adjusted all the way.... I am not familiar how narrow the nose of the shelby hood is compared to a normal hood.
I know it can be done, this guy did it

Yes you are right and the "curl" of the stock hood is much more than the Shelby. It will be a challenge for sure! I didn't think about the fact that the lines taper more than the hood itself...
I sketched this on the plane.
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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #7 on: February, 12, 2010, 07:54:01 PM »
That would be sweet Craig! Is the width of the nose the same?  I always assumed it narrowed a little.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #8 on: February, 12, 2010, 08:01:11 PM »
couple of tips:

when you get ready to do the grafting, make a template off of the top of the fender that you can lay on top of the hood parts to get the proper curve when adding the extra material. i have a large stack of masonite panels from shipping containers that works well for this, but cardboard will work too. mark a few spots on the fender & in the same places on the hood before removal. also mark the template, that way when you lay the template on the hood, you can get it in the same place

when you trim the edges of the new piece, you might leave a little extra that you can fold over like the original skin does for a more factory finished look. i can give you some insight on doing this over the phone if you run into any problems. just PM for my phone number..

i did a cougar hood one time & used another hood for a large scoop similar to the style on the 67 shelby.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #9 on: February, 12, 2010, 08:12:10 PM »
Go for it Craig2! 
   

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #10 on: February, 13, 2010, 04:50:08 PM »
That would be sweet Craig! Is the width of the nose the same?  I always assumed it narrowed a little.
The nose continues on the same taper but is longer so ultimately narrower if that is what you mean.
just PM for my phone number..
thanks for the pointers and PM sent
Go for it Craig2! 
Thanks for the inspiration!

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #11 on: February, 27, 2010, 10:47:31 AM »
I found another one...


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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #12 on: February, 27, 2010, 11:12:08 AM »
I like it!  I like the turn signal hood more without the scoop though.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #13 on: February, 27, 2010, 12:44:27 PM »
I like it!  I like the turn signal hood more without the scoop though.
me too but I need the scoop for clearance. That last car has a shaker. I'm thinking of using my Boss 429 scoop.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #14 on: February, 27, 2010, 02:07:53 PM »
Then you will look like J!  :lol  Except of course yours is a coupe, and an E!  :craz

Probably more work, but i think i would relocate the turn signals further down towards the nose and build them into a cowl hood.  But then im a little biased, I like cowl hoods.  :craz

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #15 on: February, 27, 2010, 03:56:36 PM »
okay, your hired. When should I drop them off?  :ecit

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #16 on: February, 27, 2010, 04:25:39 PM »
found this pic of an Ecar with stock hood, you can see how much it will need to be extended and how the curvature is different at the nose.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #17 on: March, 24, 2010, 03:43:00 PM »
still thinking about how to do this. so if I take two steel hoods, cut one the extra length I need and trim the corner off maybe it will work?

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #18 on: March, 24, 2010, 05:42:51 PM »
Instead of cutting a nose off one and grafting it to the other, would it work better to cut the nose off, then graft in a 3-4" section from another hood? Often that is how people stretch fenders, perhaps because it makes it easier to match the curves?.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #19 on: March, 24, 2010, 07:37:31 PM »
that's sorta what I had in mind (I think). Only instead of grafting in a section between the two original pieces, I would just cut the doner hood longer by however much I need. Isn't that the same thing without more welds? or am I missing something?

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #20 on: March, 25, 2010, 05:23:12 AM »
Same thing....less welding.

How does the front of the hood fit as it is, when slid forward in the latched position? Maybe cutting and adding to the back would work better. This would put the hood signal locations more forward and the welding in a flatter area.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #21 on: March, 25, 2010, 05:35:06 AM »
Does it HAVE to be cut at the nose area?  Could it be split across where the scoop would go?  Let visible cut/weld area that way...  Or maybe even further back?

You would not have to mess with that center crown line as well.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #22 on: March, 25, 2010, 10:32:24 AM »
Pete and J,
The radiator support doesn't move or is in the same location on Shelby's and Mustangs so adding to the rear would mean a lot of mods to the inner/under structure to move the latch back. I was hoping to only add a section ahead or forward of the latch area. The hood also get narrower as it moves forward so I would have a bigger/longer section to take out if I moved more of the hood forward.

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #23 on: March, 25, 2010, 10:42:17 AM »
that's sorta what I had in mind (I think). Only instead of grafting in a section between the two original pieces, I would just cut the doner hood longer by however much I need. Isn't that the same thing without more welds? or am I missing something?

I'd think so, BUT I've never done it. The folks Ive known that heavily modded cars always patched a piece in the middle. I have no idea why, just seen folks that know how to mod sheet metal do it that way.

Sellersrodshop is your best bet - he actually does this type of thing...  :lol

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Re: J's Rat rod has inspired me...
« Reply #24 on: March, 25, 2010, 10:52:47 AM »
well the reason I was thinking of just adding/extending the front end is that I'm lazy. The hood latch and radiator support currently would line up, but the nose would be short. If I add to the middle or back then the hood under structure would no longer line up with the radiator support/latch. Also the hood narrows as it gets toward the front so adding to the rear or middle would mean sectioning a longer area to narrow the whole "moved forward" section of hood.
The guy with the blower sent me a picture of his hood underneath. As you can see, by just adding to the end I really don't have to mess with the rest of the hood or under structure. He said his body guy hand made the nose of the hood but I was thinking of cheating, again because I'm lazy and also because I have 3 steel hoods. I also don't have the skilz or tools to fab a nose from scratch.

 


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