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any photos of old school mustangs?
« on: September, 11, 2008, 06:47:27 AM »
Whenever I get my Mustang ready for its suspension, I'd like more of the old school look~ Wider tires on the rear, and narrower in the front, Jacked up a bit in the rear(but not ridiculously), and the front end a tad lower, but not doing a nosedive either!  I know most people get into the lowered/stock look for handling~ I just want my ride to look cool, American Graffiti style I guess.  So, I'm just asking if anyone may have a photo or even an actual car setup like I'm speaking of?  Then if so, I'd like to know where to purchase that suspension!
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #1 on: September, 11, 2008, 08:09:37 AM »
Try eBay.  I've gotten a lot of ideas of what to do and many (more LOL) of what not to do with my FB.
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #2 on: September, 11, 2008, 08:25:14 AM »
This was my '66 before I sold it. I had 245/60's on the rear and 205/60's in the front. Used a set of rear springs from JC Whitney that gave a 4" lift over stock. The springs were a major supplier also, just do not remember who.



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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #3 on: September, 11, 2008, 09:15:22 AM »

Pete, that's really close, maybe a spacer in the front end to bring it up another inch! On EBay, Laurelmountainmustang advertises a rear leaf spring setup 1.5" lift above stock, but the one you show is 4"?!  So, 1.5" should be Ok, you think? But I like the way the rear is on that Mustang! :icon_thumleft:
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This was my '66 before I sold it. I had 245/60's on the rear and 205/60's in the front. Used a set of rear springs from JC Whitney that gave a 4" lift over stock. The springs were a major supplier also, just do not remember who.





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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #4 on: September, 11, 2008, 10:17:06 AM »





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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #5 on: September, 11, 2008, 10:30:22 AM »
Ok, you take that yellow Mustang, raise it about 1.5-2.0" and that's about how I'd like my Mustang to sit! :notworthy: Gosh those are some pretty Mustangs! :notworthy: Thanks 67ee!

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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #6 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:00:41 AM »










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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #7 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:18:36 AM »
AzPete pointed this one out. This is what I want to achieve, but the front end would need to come up more, this one's just a little too low. :dance


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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #8 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:42:36 AM »
...with the tires sticking out beyond the wheelwells?  Are you sure about this?  We did this "back in the old days" because we were too cheap/dumb to buy wheels with the correct offset.  With the tires sticking out beyond the quarter panel, you're going to have to have either some pretty stiff springs.... or (gulp) air shocks.... to prevent the rubber from contacting the metal during suspension compression.  Can you say "bone jarring"?

Also, with the rear of the car raised abnormally higher than the front, it will transfer more weight towards the front of the car.  Most people try transferring weight to the rear of the car for better handling, not vice-versa.

I understand the look you're going after, but it wasn't such a great idea at the time and we all know better now.

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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #9 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:52:21 AM »
nice cut dave how'd you do that, stop hating on the air shocks the PO put them on my ride god damn stupid previous owner and his stupid mods you should of seen the center console he made for the car and because the old reverse switch went out replaced it with a flip switch so i had to flip the switch to put my reverse lights on pretty fun to turn them on when someone tailgates you or when your stoped and start peeling out.

Back on topic that blue one looks a little high in back maybe a little lower and not lowered in front and it would give that old school agressive stance
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #10 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:55:13 AM »
The springs were no stiffer than stock new ones on my '66. The lift was achieved by being arched for the fit. I looked at numerous spring shops before going this route. Most local shops could not produce the lift I wanted. I used a shock that was 3" longer than stock and the ride was good.

I had stock front springs. Never did figure out why it was so low. I was about to raise it that inch but a guy wanted it and I liked the sound of his offer. lol

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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #11 on: September, 11, 2008, 11:56:40 AM »
nice cut dave how'd you do that, stop hating on the air shocks the PO put them on my ride god damn stupid previous owner and his stupid mods you should of seen the center console he made for the car and because the old reverse switch went out replaced it with a flip switch so i had to flip the switch to put my reverse lights on pretty fun to turn them on when someone tailgates you or when your stoped and start peeling out.
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« Reply #12 on: September, 11, 2008, 12:07:33 PM »
Ok, maybe not quite that high and the wheels not sticking out quite for far!?  It was just a thought and I probably won't get anywhere near this.  I"m not anywhere near this, just dreaming right now! :dance

...with the tires sticking out beyond the wheelwells?  Are you sure about this?  We did this "back in the old days" because we were too cheap/dumb to buy wheels with the correct offset.  With the tires sticking out beyond the quarter panel, you're going to have to have either some pretty stiff springs.... or (gulp) air shocks.... to prevent the rubber from contacting the metal during suspension compression.  Can you say "bone jarring"?

Also, with the rear of the car raised abnormally higher than the front, it will transfer more weight towards the front of the car.  Most people try transferring weight to the rear of the car for better handling, not vice-versa.

I understand the look you're going after, but it wasn't such a great idea at the time and we all know better now.

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« Reply #13 on: September, 11, 2008, 12:20:53 PM »
nice cut dave how'd you do that, stop hating on the air shocks the PO put them on my ride god damn stupid previous owner and his stupid mods you should of seen the center console he made for the car and because the old reverse switch went out replaced it with a flip switch so i had to flip the switch to put my reverse lights on pretty fun to turn them on when someone tailgates you or when your stoped and start peeling out.
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #14 on: September, 11, 2008, 12:34:09 PM »
Just f-in' with you pal.   ;)

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« Reply #15 on: September, 11, 2008, 12:49:37 PM »
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #16 on: September, 11, 2008, 12:52:13 PM »
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #17 on: September, 11, 2008, 03:36:07 PM »
This shows a different angle of the rear setting. The side wall of the tire was even with the edge of the body.


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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #18 on: September, 11, 2008, 04:33:14 PM »
You can always get out the ole "Slugger" and roll the lips. Course it may need a paint job afterwards. It does work VERY well thoough.

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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #19 on: September, 12, 2008, 08:25:56 AM »
I just don't see what's wrong with that setup!  Granted the front end does need to be elevated, but that's not a big deal!  Again, I appreciate you posting the photo!  I guess it'll just be experimentation when it comes to suspension!

Anyone had experience with this setup?

This shows a different angle of the rear setting. The side wall of the tire was even with the edge of the body.



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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #20 on: September, 12, 2008, 08:41:20 AM »
I just don't see what's wrong with that setup!  Granted the front end does need to be elevated, but that's not a big deal!  Again, I appreciate you posting the photo!  I guess it'll just be experimentation when it comes to suspension!

If you raise that fron much higher you may as well put Dubs (24"s) on it, I'd drop the rear a bit if anything.

I believe the TCP front end set up uses varishocks exclusively. From what I've seen/heard they give you a lot of adjustability.
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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #21 on: September, 12, 2008, 09:40:12 AM »
The backside view of AzPete's Coupe looks much nicer than the previous view.

It's all a matter of personal preference when it comes to a cars stance.  Back in the '70's it was considered "cool", nowadays it's considered "odd".

The car will handle better with a lowered stance all of the way around.

The pictured VariShocks are a TCP product.  Although they mount differently, they're very similar in appearance to the coilovers used on TCPs coilover front suspension system.  The coilovers on "the complete system" have an adjustment range of +/- 7/16ths inch from a set adjustment point.... giving the coilovers the ability to adjust ride height a total of 7/8 inch.  Keep in mind that this adjustment point is from a set height.  In other words, you'll install the coilovers and adjust them to read 14" from the top of the spring mount to the bottom of the spring mount.  This is your "nominal" ride height.  From here you can move 7/16ths inch either up or down.  Any more or less than this and you'll interfere with the operation of the coilover as it compresses/extends during driving. 

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« Reply #22 on: September, 12, 2008, 11:56:05 AM »
Glad it was odd..........you would be suprised of all the positive comments I got from the shows we were in. MAny, many people commented it was nice to see more of the old school look. Then there were the others who had to explain what was lost in the back seats....lol

FYI, the front fender top to ground on the "66 was 26.5". I believe 27 was stock. I had the 205/60/15 tires. I had thought of using a 1/2" spacer to drop the rear just a bit. Carrying 4 adults in the car never produced any tire rubbing problems either. Another plan that did not materialize was to raise the shock pads in the rear to prevent a possible tire rub.

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Re: any photos of old school mustangs?
« Reply #23 on: September, 12, 2008, 12:23:48 PM »
I agree with dave, the rear shot makes it look more "streetable", meaning the previous shot made it look as if the wheels stuck way out and you would be in deep doo doo if the airshocks failed, (ask me how I know this).

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« Reply #24 on: September, 12, 2008, 12:29:12 PM »
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if the airshocks failed

Nope, Pete had the leaf springs re-arched to increase the ride height, which if nothing else is the right way to do it.

Old School = extended shackles and air shocks.

 


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