Author Topic: NASCAR Nationwide Series New 2010 Entry (Read 1140 times)

garner67 · « **on:** July, 28, 2009, 09:56:33 PM »

Whadaya think?

added a link to the article...

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/28/ford-mustang-is-officially-nascar-bound-in-the-nationwide-seri/

95GT · « **Reply #1 on:** July, 28, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »

I like it. It will be good to see the Mustang name on the race track.

silverblueBP · « **Reply #2 on:** July, 29, 2009, 04:00:45 AM »

Add a side window and running horse and viola....a Mustang is born.

Just goes to show that nascrap just doesn't get it, I hope they go bankrupt.

DEL65 · « **Reply #3 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:40:50 AM »

I'd rather see a Mustang sticker on a car than a Taurus one.

I don't like the fact that all cars are the same, a la IROC, and the only difference between models are the stupid stickers. I also don't like the big multi-care teams unfair advantage over the smaller independents.

garner67 · « **Reply #4 on:** July, 29, 2009, 08:00:41 AM »

Quote from: 95GT on July, 28, 2009, 10:27:15 PM

I like it. It will be good to see the Mustang name on the race track.

Seems like the only thing in common with a real Mustang is the running horse. I wish they would race actual production cars.

silverblueBP · « **Reply #5 on:** July, 29, 2009, 08:23:11 AM »

Quote from: garner67 on July, 29, 2009, 08:00:41 AM

Seems like the only thing in common with a real Mustang is the running horse. I wish they would race actual production cars.

That's the only way I'd ever watch nascrap again.

KBMWRS · « **Reply #6 on:** July, 29, 2009, 08:43:00 AM »

WOW...this is amazing. I agree with all of you guys. :cool :cool :cool :cool

They should take the 'S' out of their name that's for sure.

Use production cars.
Use production engines
Use whatever gas, tires they want.

Lets see who can win a race.

AtlantaSteve · « **Reply #7 on:** July, 29, 2009, 08:43:54 AM »

Quote from: silverblueBP on July, 29, 2009, 08:23:11 AM

That's the only way I'd ever watch nascrap again.

So is your ire directly aimed at the COT? or do you also dislike the skinned 66'Fairline based modified Holman-Moody cage they ran right up until a few years ago?

Steve

silverblueBP · « **Reply #8 on:** July, 29, 2009, 09:18:46 AM »

Quote from: AtlantaSteve on July, 29, 2009, 08:43:54 AM

So is your ire directly aimed at the COT? or do you also dislike the skinned 66'Fairline based modified Holman-Moody cage they ran right up until a few years ago? Steve

I grew up near and worked in Daytona Beach for 20 some years, saw the cars raced that you could go to the dealer on Monday and buy (albeit a street version). Watched as they transformed from a "stock" car to a purpose built car race car that they slapped stickers on so you could tell them apart. The people that kept nascrap going in the early and middle years were tossed to the wayside when TV big money started rolling in. Now, it's become a different sport and has lost it's base (although it does have a new & different base). It's become too PC and rigid, they won't let the drivers even talk smack anymore without being fined

I was a fan once, spent as much free time as possible at the speedway, worked the races with timing & scoring. Hell, the millwork shop I worked for, we even built the new desks, cabinets etc... for the revamped offices (been a few years now). Went to qualifying every race....for free (they didn't charge then), had primo seats in Weatherly Tower for years. I look back now and think, what a waste!

I'll stick with open tracking my 66, it's money better spent.

Hey, you asked :naug

AzPete · « **Reply #9 on:** July, 29, 2009, 09:57:20 AM »

Yep, it is no fun to watch anymore. I liked the old saying......Win on Sunday, sell on Monday....... Can't do that now for sure.

KBMWRS · « **Reply #10 on:** July, 29, 2009, 10:06:38 AM »

totally agree about the cars. Should be based a a STOCK car.

Story from years back..80s:
Cale Yarburough was thought to be cheating when he showed up with a Buick/Olds Regal with a full sloped rear window. Since the style of the day for those cars was a notch square rear window NASCAR accused him of altering/cheating. He then displays the dealer's receipt since he saw the car in a show room and bought it. It was a production car and sold as such. That's a STOCK car!...with racing mods of course but based on a car off the showroom floor.

That WAS nascar.

70 StangMan · « **Reply #11 on:** July, 29, 2009, 01:44:25 PM »

You can slap a sticker on anything and call it what you want, but it doesn't make it so. Nascar was great "back in the day" as said before, when the cars on the track actually looked like the cars on the street.It gave Joe Blow in the stands something to be proud of when their guy and brand won. Progress goes on and big money spoils everything it is involved in. Guess what, there are tickets still on sale for the Bristol night race, I wonder why?? Dale Sr. is doing summersalts I'm sure.

lethal289 · « **Reply #12 on:** July, 29, 2009, 01:54:31 PM »

I agree totally, Nascar was great when it the words "Stock car" still had meaning. Maybe someday it will go back to their roots, I hope!

Midlife · « **Reply #13 on:** July, 29, 2009, 03:41:46 PM »

A couple of years ago, our local Mustang club visited Phoenix Racing, who runs in NASCAR series. They have since moved to SC. Anyway, after drooling over all of their sheet metal fabrication tools and shop, I asked if there is still anything stock on these cars. "Yup...the passenger front floor pan is still stock. That's it." Sad, isn't it? Sorta like building a Mustang around a fender apron VIN tag and calling it concours.

70 StangMan · « **Reply #14 on:** July, 29, 2009, 04:21:58 PM »

Quote from: Midlife on July, 29, 2009, 03:41:46 PM

A couple of years ago, our local Mustang club visited Phoenix Racing, who runs in NASCAR series. They have since moved to SC. Anyway, after drooling over all of their sheet metal fabrication tools and shop, I asked if there is still anything stock on these cars. "Yup...the passenger front floor pan is still stock. That's it." Sad, isn't it? Sorta like building a Mustang around a fender apron VIN tag and calling it concours.

Exactly. Now it's the same thing as saying John Force drags a Mustang, hey it's got the stickers. Same (lack of) mentality.

monkeystash · « **Reply #15 on:** July, 29, 2009, 05:28:55 PM »

Guys, get over it. The old days are long gone. The cars now, while vanilla, are much safer than in the past, and that is top priority in the sport now. We've come along way in the last few decades, whether it be race cars or production cars. Would I prefer NASCAR to be like the old days, hell yeah, but it's not. So I enjoy what's available today, and I can't get enough of it.

BTW, the new Mustang stickers on the Nationwide cars will be cool.

lethal289 · « **Reply #16 on:** July, 29, 2009, 05:33:41 PM »

yea, but as efficient as they are, they can also take a car right out of a dealership, make it a ton safer, and put it out on the track to race. It would only take a weekend tops for the nascar teams to completely modify the car to safety specs, and leave a stock drivetrain. I think the sport would be a lot more interesting that way.

monkeystash · « **Reply #17 on:** July, 29, 2009, 05:47:20 PM »

Quote from: lethal289 on July, 29, 2009, 05:33:41 PM

yea, but as efficient as they are, they can also take a car right out of a dealership, make it a ton safer, and put it out on the track to race. It would only take a weekend tops for the nascar teams to completely modify the car to safety specs, and leave a stock drivetrain. I think the sport would be a lot more interesting that way.

Here ya go:

http://www.mustangchallenge.com/

silverblueBP · « **Reply #18 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:00:07 PM »

Quote from: monkeystash on July, 29, 2009, 05:28:55 PM

Guys, get over it. The old days are long gone. The cars now, while vanilla, are much safer than in the past, and that is top priority in the sport now. We've come along way in the last few decades, whether it be race cars or production cars. Would I prefer NASCAR to be like the old days, hell yeah, but it's not. So I enjoy what's available today, and I can't get enough of it.

BTW, the new Mustang stickers on the Nationwide cars will be cool.

Get over what? That I think nascar is an abomination of what it once was?? That will not change! If you like it, fine...hope it makes you happy, but for me, I have NO need for it anymore. Besides, I'd much rather pay that money and drive the car myself, that beats the shit outta watching any day.

monkeystash · « **Reply #19 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:15:31 PM »

Quote from: silverblueBP on July, 29, 2009, 06:00:07 PM

Get over what? That I think nascar is an abomination of what it once was?? That will not change! If you like it, fine...hope it makes you happy, but for me, I have NO need for it anymore. Besides, I'd much rather pay that money and drive the car myself, that beats the shit outta watching any day.

It just seems that every time NASCAR comes up, it becomes a bash fest. And I too would rather drive the car myself, even if I did get passed by a PT. :rofl :hide2

lethal289 · « **Reply #20 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:18:51 PM »

:rofl :rofl

silverblueBP · « **Reply #21 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:49:09 PM »

Dammit, I didn't get passed by the Cruzer, he started out ahead and was twice as fast

If somebody asks me about nascrap, you're right, it WILL turn into a bashfest....everytime. That's why I usually try to avoid nascrap conversations. This time I didn't.

70 StangMan · « **Reply #22 on:** July, 29, 2009, 06:50:56 PM »

Can anyone say IROC ? This question from a HARD CORE ,old school NASCAR fan. I am more disapointed than angry, but that's the way all things go in life. The next generation will just look back and laugh at the way it "used to be"