Author Topic: Wiring issues Continue (Read 937 times)

RyanG85 · « **Reply #25 on:** November, 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM »

Yes. What exactly is the problem? Is there no power at all anywhere or just no cranking?

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #26 on:** November, 12, 2011, 10:43:45 AM »

I also found 2 yellow wires underdash. One going to ignition switch and one to 5 prong connection. shown in pics below. Whats the 5 prong connection for?

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #27 on:** November, 12, 2011, 10:54:11 AM »

Quote from: RyanG85 on November, 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM

Yes. What exactly is the problem? Is there no power at all anywhere or just no cranking?

The headlights and interior light come on as soon as I hookup the + of battery, so i think there always getting power somehow.

As far as ignition I get nothing at the ignition switch when I try and turn it over. Gauges also dont light up.

Midlife · « **Reply #28 on:** November, 12, 2011, 04:53:54 PM »

Quote from: Daves69Coupe on November, 12, 2011, 10:43:45 AM

I also found 2 yellow wires underdash. One going to ignition switch and one to 5 prong connection. shown in pics below. Whats the 5 prong connection for?

The yellow to the 5 prong connector is the power to your heater; it connects to the fuse box.

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The headlights and interior light come on as soon as I hookup the + of battery, so i think there always getting power somehow.

As far as ignition I get nothing at the ignition switch when I try and turn it over. Gauges also dont light up.

Methinks that you're not getting ACC power, which is converted from the yellow line at the ignition switch to the large green/black wire at the ignition switch. Does your radio and turn signal switches work? Those run off of ACC power.

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #29 on:** November, 12, 2011, 09:11:58 PM »

Quote from: Midlife on November, 12, 2011, 04:53:54 PM

The yellow to the 5 prong connector is the power to your heater; it connects to the fuse box.

Methinks that you're not getting ACC power, which is converted from the yellow line at the ignition switch to the large green/black wire at the ignition switch. Does your radio and turn signal switches work? Those run off of ACC power.

dont have radio hooked up in car right now.

Tested the turn signals and they werent working either.

Midlife · « **Reply #30 on:** November, 13, 2011, 03:10:41 AM »

My bet is that you have a defective ignition switch.

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #31 on:** November, 13, 2011, 02:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Midlife on November, 13, 2011, 03:10:41 AM

My bet is that you have a defective ignition switch.

anyway to test switch?

Midlife · « **Reply #32 on:** November, 13, 2011, 02:25:23 PM »

Go to the fuse box and test voltage at the ACC main taps. These would be the two center taps at the top of the fuse box. Another test is if the wipers work while the key is on ACC; the orange/white wire is directly tied to the ACC line from the ignition switch. To test, you'll have to pull the connector off of the switch and probe the appropriate slot.

Do these tests with key in ACC; none of these taps are fused, so be careful, OK?

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #33 on:** November, 13, 2011, 06:56:41 PM »

yea i got it Midlife. Ill have to wait to the weekend to test it tho.

buening · « **Reply #34 on:** November, 14, 2011, 07:12:13 AM »

It seems like every picture you post has at least one spliced or cut wire. You are going to end up with an electrical fire if you don't replace these wiring harnesses. For the amount of time you've put into debugging the electrical system and the amount of time still needed to get it all figured out, you could have ripped out the existing harness and put a new one in and have been back on the road a month ago. In the grand scheme of things they really aren't all that expensive, especially if you go with a refubished one from Mid....and in all honesty they really aren't that hard to change if you already have the dash pad and cluster removed.

Midlife · « **Reply #35 on:** November, 14, 2011, 09:21:30 AM »

Quote from: buening on November, 14, 2011, 07:12:13 AM

It seems like every picture you post has at least one spliced or cut wire. You are going to end up with an electrical fire if you don't replace these wiring harnesses. For the amount of time you've put into debugging the electrical system and the amount of time still needed to get it all figured out, you could have ripped out the existing harness and put a new one in and have been back on the road a month ago. In the grand scheme of things they really aren't all that expensive, especially if you go with a refubished one from Mid....and in all honesty they really aren't that hard to change if you already have the dash pad and cluster removed.

Do I owe you $10 or $20 for this post? *G*

Daves69Coupe · « **Reply #36 on:** November, 14, 2011, 10:13:02 AM »

Quote from: buening on November, 14, 2011, 07:12:13 AM

It seems like every picture you post has at least one spliced or cut wire. You are going to end up with an electrical fire if you don't replace these wiring harnesses. For the amount of time you've put into debugging the electrical system and the amount of time still needed to get it all figured out, you could have ripped out the existing harness and put a new one in and have been back on the road a month ago. In the grand scheme of things they really aren't all that expensive, especially if you go with a refubished one from Mid....and in all honesty they really aren't that hard to change if you already have the dash pad and cluster removed.

Ive been removing all the splices as I've went along and redoing the connections. The only reason I didnt send out the harness is I didnt wanna wait for it to be returned and I thought Id be able to figure it all out. I didnt realize how much the PO had screwed up.

AzPete · « **Reply #37 on:** November, 14, 2011, 01:09:20 PM »

Hmmmm......Oct 24th thru Nov 14th......Midlife is a bit slow on the return of the harnesses.....I think he has about a 1 week turn time......faster if you send in free wool.

Midlife · « **Reply #38 on:** November, 14, 2011, 03:09:04 PM »

Quote from: AzPete on November, 14, 2011, 01:09:20 PM

Hmmmm......Oct 24th thru Nov 14th......Midlife is a bit slow on the return of the harnesses.....I think he has about a 1 week turn time......faster if you send in free wool.

No need to get on the OP's case about this sort of thing; we always think we can solve problems quickly. When they can't, the solution will come the next day. Well...sometimes...sometimes not. Steadily working on the problem will get to the solution (eventually) and not have to pay me for it. Time is money, as they say....

My nominal turn-around time is one weekend in my shop; I'd say less than 5% stay longer than that, usually for waiting on missing components from the customer or unusual circumstances.

AzPete · « **Reply #39 on:** November, 14, 2011, 03:13:19 PM »

Not getting on anyone's case.......and I figured you turn around including shipping.

Midlife · « **Reply #40 on:** November, 14, 2011, 03:14:27 PM »

Yup, the price includes shipping within the US. I gotta add a bit more for international shipments.

buening · « **Reply #41 on:** November, 14, 2011, 07:23:21 PM »

Quote from: Midlife on November, 14, 2011, 09:21:30 AM

Do I owe you $10 or $20 for this post? *G*

It'd probably come with the curse

I don't know how close the OP is with fixing his wiring issues (or how long he's been working on them), but if he is tackling the underdash harness now and he's still mentioning the many things that aren't lighting up/working, I would think a 2 or 3 hour pull of the harness and shipped to Mid for a week would be much quicker than banging your head against the wall. I know you have a ton of time into the current wiring, but you need to step back and see what you've fixed so far and what you still need to address in order to determine if you think the refurb'd harness is the best option for you. Don't take this as criticism or me getting on your case, but merely just an eye opener to take a look at where you stand on the number of fixes vs number of problems remaining.

How does your headlight and taillight harness look?