Author Topic: JohnPro-Official StangFix Fender Roller Tool Box update (Read 4872 times)

ZFORCE · « **on:** August, 18, 2011, 05:25:31 PM »

Although I did not know JohnPro personally, I like many of you knew of him, and since his wife was so generous as to give the StangFix his Eastwood Fender Roller Tool, through Craig, I thought I would do my part and make a box. I know many of you offered, but since the I have the tool right now, I thought I'd make a box for it. I will be posting pictures soon, and the box is near done.

So my question, should I make a plaque to dedicate it to JohnPro and what should it say?

cmayna · « **Reply #1 on:** August, 18, 2011, 05:38:16 PM »

Personally, I think John would have preferred if everything was kept at a very low key. Meaning, don't make a box. Don't make a big thing about. He enjoyed helping others but never wanted to be in the limelight of things. Knowing that his knowlege or tools were being used to help others would mean more to him than anything else. But if you insist on making a box, keep in mind the weight such a box might add to the product and how much more or less the next person will need to pay.

Craig

ZFORCE · « **Reply #2 on:** August, 18, 2011, 06:57:23 PM »

Thanks Craig, not meaning to make a big deal, let's just consider it a shipping crate. I was just touched by his wife's generous donation, and it made me think of the man behind the tool, 'nuff said.

The box has already been made. Keeping in mind the weight, I made it out of aluminum. It gave me a chance to practice some beads. UPS generally charges more by the size than the weight. It is considerably smaller than the box that I received it in, and foam lined. Here are a couple of pictures.

SAC69 · « **Reply #3 on:** August, 18, 2011, 07:11:03 PM »

Nice work. I vote for a plaque that says "In memory of Johnpro...WTF"

To echo Craig, John would be estatic the tool has made the rounds and will continue to do so for the forseable future.

Fast68back · « **Reply #4 on:** August, 18, 2011, 07:11:18 PM »

Now that's bad ass, nice job! Be sure and sign the bottom of the lid before you forward to the next recipient.

gtscode · « **Reply #5 on:** August, 18, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »

I used that roller on my car back in the day. Just a question but isn't that box big for something that has to be shipped around?

ZFORCE · « **Reply #6 on:** August, 18, 2011, 08:29:56 PM »

Actually, it isn't that big considering I put in 3 layers of foam to protect the tool. It's 12 inches (L) by 16 inches (W) by 8 inches (H). If you look at the picture, I placed the roller as close together as possible and the parts are also stacked. The foam layers are roughly 2 inches thick. Considering the weight of aluminum, reducing the dimensions by a few inches wouldn't really be worth the savings in weight.

Here is another picture, without the foam:

guruatbol · « **Reply #7 on:** August, 18, 2011, 08:36:15 PM »

Will UPS ship it with the hasp on the front? Maybe a inset lock with the key in an envelope on the top???

I think we should all put a sticker on the inside from our location so we can see where it has traveled. Kind of like an old steamer trunk.

Mel

ZFORCE · « **Reply #8 on:** August, 18, 2011, 08:49:03 PM »

I actually checked with UPS prior to building it. I asked them about putting a combination lock on it and they had no problem with it. They actually said as long as it's a box, it was OK, they didn't even have any requirements for the material it's made of.

I was actually thinking we could put one of those new StangFix stickers on it.

DEL65 · « **Reply #9 on:** August, 18, 2011, 09:03:19 PM »

Nice work. It's a fine tribute.

cmayna · « **Reply #10 on:** August, 18, 2011, 11:14:16 PM »

Way too nice!! But John would still give it a big

Question I have is, are you planning to ship it, as is (putting a ship to and return label on the bare metal) or place that box in a shipping box? UPS, Fedex, etc are known for beating up everything they ship.

With that in mind, how big or how much will the final shipping carton be/weigh?

Oh and yes, it will have a couple SF stickers.

65-408 · « **Reply #11 on:** August, 19, 2011, 10:49:49 AM »

I like the box and may need the tool, had no idea it existed... is there an official waiting list?

cmayna · « **Reply #12 on:** August, 19, 2011, 11:52:05 AM »

Yes there is a list. PM me with your location and how soon you need it.

Now, if Arthur can ever finish puttzing with the new box, maybe we can get it on the road to Calif ?

ZFORCE · « **Reply #13 on:** August, 19, 2011, 09:43:10 PM »

OK, so here is the shipping comparison. The aluminum box weights 6 pounds more than the cardboard box does, but it's measurements are smaller. I picked some random destinations and estimated the package to be worth $300. Dimensions and shipping charges are as follows:

Aluminum Box vs. Cardboard Box
Length------------------------12"------------------------------------15 1/2"
Width-------------------------16"------------------------------------19"
Height--------------------------8"-------------------------------------8 1/2"
Weight-----------------------10lbs----------------------------------4lbs
Cost to ship AZ to CA---------$25.30------------------------------$21.26=$4.04 Difference
Cost to ship AZ to TN---------$36.49------------------------------$30.15=$6.34 Difference
Cost to ship AZ to OK---------$28.30------------------------------$24.25=$4.05 Difference
Cost to ship AZ to VM---------$45.69------------------------------$37.63=$8.03 Difference

So that is the scoop, on average $6.00 will be added to the cost of shipping and protecting the $300.00 tool, and to answer Craig, yes the plan is to ship it as is and put an address sticker right on the old box...it was scrap 1/8" aluminum, so let UPS do their thing with it. I'm curious as to how my practice beads will hold anyway! IMO, they are "crude, but effective."

Finally, anyone know where that quote is from?

67 evil eleanor · « **Reply #14 on:** August, 20, 2011, 04:13:44 AM »

Nice work and I think its a fine addition. So many times I've had something heavy break thru a cardboard box and was mia upon arrival. It gets a

from me.

janschutz · « **Reply #15 on:** August, 20, 2011, 09:46:19 AM »

Looks great, how can I get my name on the list to use it!

67 Fastback · « **Reply #16 on:** August, 20, 2011, 10:07:21 AM »

So, do you guys just shipped it to the next guy or what? I think it's awesome to have a community tool.
Bill

cmayna · « **Reply #17 on:** August, 20, 2011, 01:45:20 PM »

Quote from: 67 Fastback on August, 20, 2011, 10:07:21 AM

So, do you guys just shipped it to the next guy or what? I think it's awesome to have a community tool.
Bill

No, I try to determine who needs it, where they live and how urgently they need it. I'll then give instructions to who currently has it, where it needs to go to next. Trying desperately in minimizing trips back and forth from coast to coast. Who ever the tool is shipped to, needs to reimburse the previous user, the postage unless they have an active Fedex or UPS account. PM me with any questions you have. Just don't bother ZFORCE for he's busy finishing up the box and roll dem fenders........

sgtjunior · « **Reply #18 on:** August, 20, 2011, 11:29:25 PM »

And I was 1st on the wild trip around the country!

sometimes life is good

silverblueBP · « **Reply #19 on:** August, 21, 2011, 03:40:49 AM »

Instead of reimbursing previous user, why not just have the current user pay to ship to next guy?

lethal289 · « **Reply #20 on:** August, 21, 2011, 03:46:48 AM »

Quote from: silverblueBP on August, 21, 2011, 03:40:49 AM

Instead of reimbursing previous user, why not just have the current user pay to ship to next guy?

duhhh, because craig had to ship it to the first guy!

cmayna · « **Reply #21 on:** August, 21, 2011, 05:59:17 AM »

Here's my reasoning as to why the recepient is paying postage.

Example: AZ to CA to TN to SC

If Numbnuts in AZ pays postage to CA, that's pretty cheap as compared to Loosenuts in CA having to pay postage to TN. Thus if Cracklenuts in TN wants the tool bad enough, he needs to pay the postage across the states to his place in order to use the tool. And yes Nonuts in SC will clean up big time with the tool already being nearby.

Hope this makes sense. If most disagree with my reasoning and feel that it would be much easier for each person to simply pay the outbound postage and be done with it, I'd be willing to change it, but will need to reimburse the one person who will get caught having just paid an inbound to use the tool and now outbound.