Author Topic: CSRP disc brakes (Read 1647 times)

Kats66Pny · « **on:** July, 25, 2011, 06:44:24 AM »

There's 3 Swap kits, but whats the difference? They are all the same price, all seem to be compatible with 65-73 mustangs, yet 1 kit doesn't come with spindles and the other 2 kits do.

Swap 1
Swap 2
Swap 3

AzPete · « **Reply #1 on:** July, 25, 2011, 06:53:29 AM »

Ahhhh....did you read them? The difference is in the style of brakes you desire. Kelsie HAyes, Granada, or 70's Mustang styles.....some don't care, some have specific desires.

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #2 on:** July, 25, 2011, 07:03:01 AM »

I see that they were different styles... but I'm just trying to figure out why would I want to buy swap 1 that doesn't come with spindles (use your existing ones) for $525/$650 when you can buy Swap 2 or 3? I have my current spindles so I could buy swap 1 (KH style), but for the same price I could just buy swap 2 and get new spindles and do granada style.

I would have just thought swap 1 would have been cheaper since you don't get spindles and outer tie rods.

Horseplay · « **Reply #3 on:** July, 25, 2011, 07:14:12 AM »

Kat,

There are many differences between the three kits. Long term, the Granada set-up would probably be cheapest due to the commonality of parts. You also need to consider the wheels you'll be using since not all kits will work on all wheels. The KH set-up uses 4 piston calipers the others are a single piston design. etc, etc, etc

Not all things are created equal. Why not call them and discuss your intended use of the car and get their guidance?

AzPete · « **Reply #4 on:** July, 25, 2011, 07:22:21 AM »

4 piston calipers cost more too.....

B67FSTB · « **Reply #5 on:** July, 25, 2011, 08:37:08 AM »

you can't use your orig wheels on granada disk brakes unless you mill away a certain amount of metal of the disk's snoute.
I did it .
OK guys , help me out here to explain what I mean.

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #6 on:** July, 25, 2011, 08:48:11 AM »

I have the 68/69 styled wheels right now,

but eventually I'll be getting 17s or 18s. When I can afford it. Until then I was just going to continue using the ones I already have.

B67FSTB · « **Reply #7 on:** July, 25, 2011, 11:42:21 AM »

granada setup is good and cheap .
you need to change the outer tie rods and mill down the center of the granada disks to meet the orig mustang wheels.
There is enough metal to mill down the center so you can use these chrome 68/69 style wheels.

gotstang · « **Reply #8 on:** July, 25, 2011, 01:37:19 PM »

I'd vote for swap.3, your current wheels will fit and there are more pads available than for Granada brakes.

AzPete · « **Reply #9 on:** July, 25, 2011, 05:00:31 PM »

My last '66 had 70 Mustang disc setup...worked nice with a Maverick dual master cyl. and still manual all the way. Easy pedal and good stopping.

lethal289 · « **Reply #10 on:** July, 25, 2011, 06:56:51 PM »

just curious, have you considered the scarebird kit? I've read some good things.

mmw68 · « **Reply #11 on:** July, 25, 2011, 07:03:49 PM »

The CSRP guy live in Austin, not too far from me. He is very nice to deal with, and is great about answering all your question, just call his cell.

-Mark

AtlantaSteve · « **Reply #12 on:** July, 25, 2011, 07:13:34 PM »

Definitely call Dennis. Nice guy and knows his stuff. He's not going to steer you down the wrong path. In the end it's your decision, since you have the spindles and can go any way you want...but he can tell you what things you need to think about before making that decision.

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #13 on:** July, 26, 2011, 05:55:32 AM »

Quote from: lethal289 on July, 25, 2011, 06:56:51 PM

just curious, have you considered the scarebird kit? I've read some good things.

Huh?

Never heard of it.

Horseplay · « **Reply #14 on:** July, 26, 2011, 06:07:32 AM »

http://www.scarebird.com/index.php?id=1

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #15 on:** July, 26, 2011, 06:21:18 AM »

So from my understanding.. you buy the brackets and then go to a local auto parts stores and buy the rest. Interesting.

66gt350 · « **Reply #16 on:** July, 26, 2011, 08:21:20 AM »

I'm running a set of the Stainless Steel Brakes that looks like option #1 with the four piston calipers. I've never had and problems, and the car stops pretty quick, when mashing on the brakes.

LMan68 · « **Reply #17 on:** July, 30, 2011, 08:37:59 PM »

Quote from: gotstang on July, 25, 2011, 01:37:19 PM

I'd vote for swap.3, your current wheels will fit and there are more pads available than for Granada brakes.

uh huh....

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #18 on:** July, 31, 2011, 05:32:51 AM »

Do you mean Swap 2? That is the granada based ones.

http://www.discbrakeswap.com/Mustang%20Disc%20Brake%20Conversion%20Kits%20SWAP2.html

According to that, 14" wheels will not fit swap 2.

Swap 3 - 68-73 MUSTANG BASED KIT
That one says 14" will fit

Swap 1 65-67 KH 4 PISTON CALIPER BASED KIT
this also says most 14s will fit

gotstang · « **Reply #19 on:** July, 31, 2011, 02:14:13 PM »

No, the Granada setup (aka swap2) looks like a pain in the azz for you. I'd go with swap3, the 68-73 Mustang based kit. Your wheels will fit the mustang brakes and there are better pads available for the mustang brakes.

AzPete · « **Reply #20 on:** July, 31, 2011, 02:53:25 PM »

Starfury · « **Reply #21 on:** August, 04, 2011, 07:17:51 AM »

Whoa, hold on. From someone who's been there and done that, get the Swap1 kit. It uses the factory parts and is superior in almost every way to the Granada-style kit. And since you don't have to swap spindles, you can usually get the job done in a day.

I absolutely love my OE style KH brakes from CSRP. I even went with the manual brake option and I see no reason to ever add a power booster. Braking is progressive and easy to modulate, and I've never been able to fade them. And for me, that's saying something.

The only downside to the KH brakes is pad selection. There are only a few options for pads out there. Parts stores can only get base level organic pads (I know, I work at O'Reilly's). I believe SSBC offers semi-metallic pads designed for high performance use, and Hawk and EBC both offer street and race-only versions. I'm eyeing the Hawk street pads for my next pad swap.

But unless your spindles are trashed for some reason, there's no reason to use a single piston sliding caliper setup that requires you to install new spindles when you can bolt a superior 4-piston caliper setup to your factory spindles and still fit it under factory 14" wheels.

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #22 on:** August, 04, 2011, 07:38:01 AM »

Is there any difference between the kits when it comes to the brake pedal - how far you have to press that sucker to the floor?

I know with the drums and fruit jar, I almost had to stand on the brake pedal and it was pretty damn close to the floor before the car stopped. Not sure if that's just how it was with older car or not? I'd like it to be a little more like modern brakes where I don't have to put my whole weight into it and stand on the pedal to get the car to stop.

Midlife · « **Reply #23 on:** August, 04, 2011, 08:56:33 AM »

With K-H disc brakes up front and properly maintained drums in the back, the pedal has little free movement and little give to it once engaged. It is a quite firm pedal, but you can modulate the forces easily enough.

Kats66Pny · « **Reply #24 on:** August, 04, 2011, 09:13:51 AM »

Quote from: Midlife on August, 04, 2011, 08:56:33 AM

With K-H disc brakes up front and properly maintained drums in the back, the pedal has little free movement and little give to it once engaged. It is a quite firm pedal, but you can modulate the forces easily enough.

Is that manual or power with the K-H brakes?

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