Author Topic: Car won't start need help UPDATE help me pick a starter (Read 783 times)

pnandy · « **on:** June, 17, 2011, 06:52:21 PM »

Ok so it's not the battery think it's the starter I wasn't at home so I tried to push start it I had a hill to go down but it wouldn't work it the wheels wouldn't turn after I let the clutch out any ideas??

AzPete · « **Reply #1 on:** June, 17, 2011, 07:01:09 PM »

Can you turn the engine by hand? Letting the clutch out while rolling should have turned the engine. If it did, then your issue is in fuel or spark.

Jonk67 · « **Reply #2 on:** June, 17, 2011, 07:01:36 PM »

Ok, you lost me at you were on a hill but the wheels wouldn't turn when you let the clutch out?
First you get rolling ~3,5,10mph something rolling but not fast, normally a couple guys can push it fast enough on a flat road. Put the key at the on or 'run' position (where the key is while you're driving), then you let the clutch out in 2nd and it spins the motor, then push the clutch back in and the motor should be running.
Jon

pnandy · « **Reply #3 on:** June, 17, 2011, 07:33:33 PM »

Motor wouldn't spin when going down hill key was on I done it many times before in other cars

pnandy · « **Reply #4 on:** June, 17, 2011, 07:49:49 PM »

The wheels didn't spin after the clutch was let out they slid and would have stopes the car if I did t put the clutch bck in

Jonk67 · « **Reply #5 on:** June, 17, 2011, 08:37:36 PM »

Ok, back to Pete's question, can you turn the engine by hand with a ratchet on the crank bolt?
Jon

crustycurmudgeon · « **Reply #6 on:** June, 17, 2011, 08:42:03 PM »

Agreed, sounds like something locked up.

Frank

B67FSTB · « **Reply #7 on:** June, 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM »

Quote from: pnandy on June, 17, 2011, 06:52:21 PM

Ok so it's not the battery think it's the starter I wasn't at home so I tried to push start it I had a hill to go down but it wouldn't work it the wheels wouldn't turn after I let the clutch out any ideas??

Transmission failure ?? Did you have some problems earlier on with your transmission ???

nymustang · « **Reply #8 on:** June, 18, 2011, 04:50:06 AM »

When you try starting it with the key does anything happen at all? Is the starter trying? No noises? Have you tried spinning it by hand yet?

cmayna · « **Reply #9 on:** June, 18, 2011, 05:43:08 AM »

Can't see how it would be the tranny if you push the clutch in (assuming you can) and turn the key over. Sounds like the motor to me. Is the Starter stuck against the flywheel?

We need a Saturday lunchtime update

Mach1Rider · « **Reply #10 on:** June, 18, 2011, 05:51:04 AM »

I suggest pulling the plugs out and try turning it over.
My bet is that one or more cyl's has hydo locked for some reason.

B67FSTB · « **Reply #11 on:** June, 18, 2011, 08:22:31 AM »

Quote from: cmayna on June, 18, 2011, 05:43:08 AM

Can't see how it would be the tranny if you push the clutch in (assuming you can) and turn the key over. Sounds like the motor to me. Is the Starter stuck against the flywheel?

We need a Saturday lunchtime update

Yeh , you're right Craig.Sorry , my mistake.Didn't read it very well.
As suggested , try to rotate the crankshaft by a wrench at the crankshaft damper bolt.Clockwise of course.

pnandy · « **Reply #12 on:** June, 18, 2011, 12:21:27 PM »

Quote from: cmayna on June, 18, 2011, 05:43:08 AM

Is the Starter stuck against the flywheel?

We need a Saturday lunchtime update

I believe that is what's wrong planning to replace the starter next weekend if I have time...no time this weekend :-/
Ok so next question what starter should I get?

And it's lunch time in so cal now

Sluggo · « **Reply #13 on:** June, 18, 2011, 08:11:50 PM »

Can't go wrong with a mini starter.

B67FSTB · « **Reply #14 on:** June, 19, 2011, 02:26:41 AM »

Quote from: Sluggo on June, 18, 2011, 08:11:50 PM

Can't go wrong with a mini starter.

+1 here
and look out that there is a differents if you have auto or manu trans.

cmayna · « **Reply #15 on:** June, 19, 2011, 05:08:21 AM »

Look up: NAPA mini starter #4N-9240 which is what I'm using in Shag.

pnandy · « **Reply #16 on:** June, 19, 2011, 02:59:23 PM »

Craig will this fit my application? 347 4speed any issues to know ahead of time before the install should I buy any else for the install??

gotstang · « **Reply #17 on:** June, 19, 2011, 03:38:48 PM »

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-1322-new-ford-mini-pmgr-starter-302-351-manual-transmissions-3223-sfd0012.aspx

These are the same as the OEM Ford ministarters from teh 1990s and the same as the $175 Ford Racing ministarter. They seem to be very well made too, despite how CHEAP the price is.

Sluggo · « **Reply #18 on:** June, 19, 2011, 07:28:01 PM »

Quote from: gotstang on June, 19, 2011, 03:38:48 PM

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-1322-new-ford-mini-pmgr-starter-302-351-manual-transmissions-3223-sfd0012.aspx

These are the same as the OEM Ford ministarters from teh 1990s and the same as the $175 Ford Racing ministarter. They seem to be very well made too, despite how CHEAP the price is.

Agreed. Exact starter I'm running. No issues whatsoever. Spins the stroker over and starts at a bump of the key hot, cold, hot soaked, etc.

pnandy · « **Reply #19 on:** June, 20, 2011, 10:36:29 AM »

Ok sounds good ima buy the db starter any issues with the install I should know of ahead of time should I be buying anything else?

Sluggo · « **Reply #20 on:** June, 20, 2011, 06:09:47 PM »

Quote from: pnandy on June, 20, 2011, 10:36:29 AM

Ok sounds good ima buy the db starter any issues with the install I should know of ahead of time should I be buying anything else?

Yeah, do not run the large wire to the starter from the same side of the solenoid it's on now. Run it from the battery side and the small wire from the starter side.

The starter motor needs to have power on it all the time. If you run them both to the starter side it will act stupid.