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Mustang carnage.........
« on: March, 05, 2011, 06:10:51 AM »
I knew it was only a matter of time before I broke something on my car........well, I ran home at lunch on Thursday and was about 2 blocks from the house when I felt something that didnt seem quite right.... I pushed the clutch MC through the firewall.  :wtf  I dont think I'll be able to fix this with  :gs

When I got the car from my dad the car had sat for YEARS, damn near 25. The brake MC had leaked down the firewall. When the car was media blasted it didnt look that bad. The clutch had always been fairly stiff, but I was not expecting this at all........

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #1 on: March, 05, 2011, 06:16:23 AM »
Looks like more than the average evening repair. How much sheet metal do you have top replace?
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #2 on: March, 05, 2011, 06:18:51 AM »
Wow,
Maybe you should consider a non hydraulic clutch set up?

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #3 on: March, 05, 2011, 06:26:33 AM »
ouch! What M/C setup is that? Whats the plan of attack, sandwich with a plate on either side?

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #4 on: March, 05, 2011, 06:34:18 AM »
ouch! What M/C setup is that? Whats the plan of attack, sandwich with a plate on either side?

I have the Mcleod Hyd TO setup, I swapped the Wilwood MC for the CNC unit. My thought is to sandwhich plates on both sides. Originally thought about a cable setup, but think I will try the sandwich plan first.

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #5 on: March, 05, 2011, 06:45:37 AM »
Sounds like a good and fairly simple plan.

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #6 on: March, 05, 2011, 07:49:49 AM »
Just powershift without the clutch and you will be fine.  :thu  You don't need no stinking clutch.  Them are for woosies............
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #7 on: March, 05, 2011, 09:07:46 AM »
That blows!

I'm going to have to keep an eye on mine. Maybe a bracket that bolt behind the brake booster with a couple of gussets might be in order.

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #8 on: March, 05, 2011, 09:19:14 AM »
I could always go automatic...how boring would that be......

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #9 on: March, 05, 2011, 09:33:38 AM »
I could always go automatic...how boring would that be......
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #10 on: March, 05, 2011, 09:49:23 AM »
I could always go automatic...how boring would that be......
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #11 on: March, 05, 2011, 10:05:56 AM »
Metal weakness .The firewall is too thin to withstand the force aplied to.
From the beginning it had to be reinforced with a thicker plate.
I would say , do some reinforcements and keep the hydraulic setup.Its simply the best IMO although I have the cable setup but thats due to lack of finance overhere  :roll :roll
« Last Edit: March, 06, 2011, 01:51:29 AM by B67FSTB »
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #12 on: March, 05, 2011, 10:15:47 AM »
I thought everyone knew that was a possibility when doing that setup. Here is what I did to mine when I did my conversion. This is only on the inside of the firewall. I hope I'm not jinxing myself.

I am sorry to see that. I hope you can repair that and make it look good for such an awesome car.
« Last Edit: March, 05, 2011, 11:25:53 AM by Mustang Mike »
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #13 on: March, 05, 2011, 01:14:00 PM »
I thought everyone knew that was a possibility when doing that setup. Here is what I did to mine when I did my conversion. This is only on the inside of the firewall. I hope I'm not jinxing myself.

I am sorry to see that. I hope you can repair that and make it look good for such an awesome car.

That's similar to mine. Reinforced on the inside and right next to a stamped recess in the firewall. It's dead nuts straight too. No side load or up/down load. I just looked at it will I was pulling out the parking brake to weld the release lever back on and it's fine. I will be keeping an eye on it though.

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #14 on: March, 05, 2011, 02:24:50 PM »
I could always go automatic...how boring would that be......


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Sorry to hear the news, but sounds like a fairly easy fix.
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #15 on: March, 10, 2011, 06:21:57 AM »
Wow - In all my years of working with cars and trucks, I've never seen that happen! Just slap some JB wield on it, it will be fine... ;)
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #16 on: March, 10, 2011, 06:39:06 AM »
Rick, send me some dimensions & I can cut you some reinforcing plates and mail'em to you.
   

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #17 on: March, 10, 2011, 06:41:18 AM »
Rick, send me some dimensions & I can cut you some reinforcing plates and mail'em to you.

but you can't mail me anything  :rant

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #18 on: March, 10, 2011, 07:06:27 AM »
but you can't mail me anything  :rant
Watch out J.  he's starting to catch on.  :confu

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #19 on: March, 10, 2011, 07:36:08 AM »
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #20 on: March, 10, 2011, 07:55:26 AM »
I've seen several cars that have torn at the brake master cylinder mount...

You definitely need an inner reinforcement plate after the damage is repaired. I'd also consider running a tubular brace in the engine compartment from the Master cylinder/clutch area forward to the shock tower. IIRC, it was "roadracer" (aka Charlie Jones) who built one of those after observing quite a bit of firewall flex on his car - said it tightened up the braking quite a bit. I'll see if I still have some pictures.

I once did the same thing with a 77 Chevy Monza V8/4-speed. Kept eating clutches so we put a HEAVY duty clutch in. Promptly pulled the clutch cable right thru the firewall. Drilled a hole in a 6x6 piece of 1/8" steel plate, put it together and sold the car...  :wth
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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #21 on: March, 10, 2011, 09:30:33 AM »
Rick, I am just now seeing this post. Sorry for the problem, but that is what you get for taking the garage queen out of the garage. You should know better. That clutch M/C would still be fine if you had left the car parked in the garage where it belongs. Those of us that drive our cars are used to stuff falling off, but this must be quite a shock for you. You did mention that you missed some of the fun of building the car, so now is your chance to recapture that fun.

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #22 on: March, 10, 2011, 11:28:40 AM »
Rick, I am just now seeing this post. Sorry for the problem, but that is what you get for taking the garage queen out of the garage. You should know better. That clutch M/C would still be fine if you had left the car parked in the garage where it belongs. Those of us that drive our cars are used to stuff falling off, but this must be quite a shock for you. You did mention that you missed some of the fun of building the car, so now is your chance to recapture that fun.

I'll sue you......

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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #23 on: March, 10, 2011, 12:12:11 PM »
You can't sue Kev because he's a total freakin rock star from Mars

Sorry to hear about your clutch failure but it doesn't appear to be anything a little  :gs and duct tape can't fix.


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Re: Mustang carnage.........
« Reply #24 on: March, 10, 2011, 12:28:34 PM »
I have an auto and yes it's boring! I have heard this was an issue but thought the hyd set-up was easier on the car than a cable.
Good luck fixing that baby up!
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